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>> i don't think anybody would deny it's a political move. i also think no one should deny it's a policy move. the reason is the yahoos behind us haven't doble their jobs. we are in a political year, and this is just the season we're in. i think jonathan is right. this puts mitt romney in one hell of a position. if he sticks with where he is currently, then he seems out of the touch, inhumane, et cetera, et cetera, if he moves, he flip-flops. and he turns off the conservative -- this is a double dog dare from the president. >> speaking of double days ago dare since that's the language you're m...

President joe biden coming on primarily to talk about iraq. so i believe the fact that she was table to get him on the show tells you this administration wants to talk about getting our troops out of iraq. they really want to talk about it. so they're very proud of this number of four out of five americans supporting them in this policy move. up next, rumbling with romney. we'll meet a vietnam veteran who locked horns with mitt romney in new hampshire over same-sex marriage. the vet, bob garon, said the exchange changed his mind about romney. this is "hardball," only on msnbc.

Terms of american casualties, i think it would have been a nonstarter back in 2002. >> they said it would have been quick and easy, it was absolutely essential, and then it was going to be quickly over. it was going to be a cakewalk. a wonderful phrase. a cakewalk that's now ending after a decade and they want it to continue! rajiv, you're a great reporter. thank you so much for coming on. tonight on "the rachel maddow show," a big guest, vice president joe biden coming on primarily to talk about iraq. so i believe the fact that she was table to get him on the show tells you this administratio...

This administration thinks you can borrow money to pay for -- to create jobs. it never really works that way. roosevelt's wpa, george bush did a stimulus package, none of them worked. >> charles, should this guy even be treasury secretary? what's does his track record reveal? >> i don't think he should. and the reason why, if you listen to some of his statements, they make no sense. it doesn't really sound like he's got a handle around basic economics. i know he does, i think he does. he went to dartmouth or something like that but when you ask him specific questions about how to get the econo...

cnn london. libya's interim leadership is giving civilians until thursday night to leave the gadhafi stronghold of bani walid. many have been streaming out of town. . a western diplomat tells cnn an official from oman is on his way to tehran to help the negotiatings in the case against two hikers sentenced for spying in iran. iran's judiciary says it is considering a request to set bail in the case. this seems to contradict previous statements by the hingers' attorney and iranian president mahmoud ahmadinejad. pakistani disaster officials say flooding has killed at least 2 3 peop...