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>> how many times when you talked to your ukrainian counterparts did you ask them to investigate the bidens? >> never, sir. >> why not? >> sir, it was not a policy objective that i was aware of. >> but with all due respect, mr. morrison, you are not in the white house to carry out your policy objectives. you just testified that the president sets the foreign policy objectives for the united states and the one call that you listened to between the president of the united states and the president of ukraine, the president of the united states priorities were to investigate the bidens and i'm ask...

To your ukrainian counterparts, did you ask them to investigate the bidens? >> never, sir. >> why not? >> sir, it was not a policy objective that i was aware of. >> with all due respect, mr. morrison, you're not in the white house to carry out your policy objectives. you just testified that the president's at the foreign policy objectives for the united states, and the one call that you listen to between the president of the united states and the president of ukraine, the president of the united states' priorities were to investigate the bidens. i'm asking you, sir, why didn't you follow up on...

Of times? >> yes, sir. >> how many times when you talked to your ukrainian counter parts did you ask them to investigate the bidens? >> never, sir. >> why not? >> sir, it was not a policy objective that i was aware of. >> but with all due respect, mr. morrison, you're not in the white house to carry out your policy objectives. you just testified that the president sets the foreign policy objectives for the united states. and the one call you listened to between the president of the united states and the president of ukraine, the president of the united states priorities were to investigate the...

>> the nsc staff did, yes. >> and per usual custom are these -- were these talking points based on the official united states policy objectives? >> they were. >> and since there has been a little bit of dispute about what that means, could you explain how official u.s. policy is determined with -- through the interagency process? >> we operate under what is known as nspm 4. national security memorandum four on the internet how the president wanted to be provided options for his decision. >> and there is an extensive process to finalize any policy, is that right? >> sometimes. >> did you -- mr....

For president trump for this call? >> the staff did commit yes. >> per usual custom, where these talking points based on the official united states policy objectives? >> they wear. >> since there has been a little bit of dispute about what that means, can you explain how official u.s. policy is determined through the inner agency process? >> we operate under what is known as national security presidential memorandum four. it's on the internet. it lays out how the president wants to be provided options for his decision. >> and there is an extensive process to finalize any policy? is that right?...