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That is correct. You explained earlier that your job in the white house was to coordinate United States and Ukraine Policy, is that right . It is to coordinate United States policy visavis ukraine, correct. You testified in the spring of this year that these officials, these ukrainian officials began asking you, quote, advice on how to respond to mr. Giulianis advances, end quote. Is that correct . That is correct. What do you understand they meant by mr. Giulianis advances . I understood that to mean both his public commentary, so publicly calling for investigations into 2016, burisma, and hu...

Concerning the allegations, i stressed that no one in the new team governing ukraine had anything to do with anything that may have happened in 2016. They were making Television Shows at the time. I also said that it is not credible to me that former Vice President biden would have been influenced in any way by financial or personal motives in carrying out his duties as Vice President. A different issue is whether some individual ukrainians may have attempted to influence the 2016 election or thought they would buy influence. That is at least plausible given ukraines reputation for corruption....

Else doing that either, is that right? >> correct. >> now, you testified in your deposition that hearing this call confirmed what you called the parallel process that your predecessor fiona hill had warned you about. what did you mean by that? >> during the period in which dr. hill and i were conducting handoff meetings so that i could be up to speed on the various things that were occurring in the portfolio at the time, she mentioned the traditional nspm 4 process and the parallel process and in the context of discussing the parallel process she mentioned issues like burisma which were notewo...

>> the nsc staff did, yes. >> and per usual custom are these -- were these talking points based on the official united states policy objectives? >> they were. >> and since there has been a little bit of dispute about what that means, could you explain how official u.s. policy is determined with -- through the interagency process? >> we operate under what is known as nspm 4. national security memorandum four on the internet how the president wanted to be provided options for his decision. >> and there is an extensive process to finalize any policy, is that right? >> sometimes. >> did you -- mr....

>> ambassador to ukraine, anyone report to you in your responsibilities? >> congress mman, at my level i convene the meetings with the deputy assistant. >> does anybody need your approval to formulate ukraine policy? >> according to the nspm 4, the policy signed by the president -- >> so -- >> -- coordinated by the nsc, correct. >> ms. williams, do you have any information that any person who has testified as part of this impeachment inquiry, either in secret or in public, has either perjured themselves or lied to this committee? >> i have not read the other testimonies. and -- >> do you have ...