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Alive, and so that's part of the problem with tuberville right now. is that he is on the opposite side of where the republican party wants us to be and what they want to predict for the american people, which is supporting the army, supporting the military, and making sure that everyone understands that. he also, had talked about white nationalists and not being racist, and that was something that has a lot of folks in the republican and party and senate and the policy points were saying to us that he was embarrassing them on that point. and the last thing is, in the house, the -- a lot of the...

People that are serving this country. it is what he cannot see. >> eugene, the policy points, the house is going to house. what do you think? >> i think that is right. i think it is in the senate. and those points are correct, and i would just add that the idea of supporting the military has been at the heart of republican politics for as long as i can remember. and for as long as all of us have been alive. so that is part of the problem with tuberville right now. is that he is on the opposite side of the republican party and what they want to be, and what they want to project to the american ...

Could lead. i disagree with mike pence on 99.9% of his policy points but that is the wray you run for the president of the united states. >> and what do you think if there are indictments of donald trump and others around him for january 6, for trying to overturn a free and fair election, do you think that will have any impact on republican voters? >> well, listen, this is the third indictment of the former president and his numbers have only gone up. it did depend on how they handle it, to explain why this matters and someone like mike pence or nikki haley. to explain why what he did was to u...

This is an existential kind of an argument that our country's at stake and i'm the only thing standing between you and a total -- i think that's it from here on out really. if you're the rest of the field and you're trying to debate against that, you're not going to be able to debate among the finer policy points. he's out here arguing -- >> it's hogged all the air. stephanie, it's interesting what kristin was just saying. the choice that trump made to go to that cuban restaurant. sure, he wanted the photo op and to show everything's fine here, i'm very happy, i'm not scowling, but that he had...

Party that is left is a party that is going to be receptive to the candidate we saw on the stage tonight. i just don't know if she can finesse that and straddle that line. >> the reason that there is another section of the american public, particularly like the general population, the general election voters who think this is silly, is because on one hand, you can't say that americans are having trouble with pocketbook needs, that we have to be strong and stand with ukraine, that we have to make sure we take care of the border, that we have to do these very, very strong issues and take these s...