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Lives and to blue lives. and the corruption of that message has sent the movement back so far that people who want to say, there is nothing wrong with the police can point to this and say, you are running the most important organization. you are right to commit was mostly white people. i would say well intentioned white people who saw what happened to george floyd. [overlapping voices] i'm sitting right here! they saw what happened to george floyd and said, "what can i do?" they saw an organization with the name of what they believe. it is really so fundamentally messed up. great organizations...

On fox news and say that we should increase the voting age. nine people couldn't decide what was in their best interest. young people know what's in their own best interest. they don't see any future the republican party. so, the republican party has a. twice they can either decide to change their policy position or they can look towards a very, very stark future for themselves. >> kristina saint sun ramirez, thank you. more american voices next. but first, a look at what else is ahead. tonight on msnbc. >> hey, there i'm ayman mohyeldin. tonight at nine eastern on the democratic -- joins me t...

>> thank you, maria. maria: how do you think this debt showdown will play out in the coming months? >> well, i think it'll play out in the sense that we have just had the american people speak. the american people were operating under oppressive burden. our $311 trillion -- if 1 -- 31 trillion national department is so much larger hand our economy, that we're having a difficult time keeping up with it. in just a few years, we're going to see our annual interest on debt skyrocket from around $400 billion a year to well over a trillion a year, and we don't have that kind of money to cover that a...

Recognition of a particular policy position and figured out the rest later. how often do we hear about that on capitol hill? but what's your reaction? >> well, i just think that, again, i feel like the process was just very poorly done. frankly this should be adjudicated in the laws. i'm not a lawyer, but that seems to be the appropriate venue for this kind of thing. this is sort of a societal problem that we're facing right now. it feels like in many circumstances that these sorts of policies, not just this one but other ones, are sort of jamming down on a very political and tribal level. and...

Attempting to disrupt kevin mccarthy from becoming speaker —— category. by doing a pretty effective job of it right now. and it has caused a huge amount of dissension and chaos and it has put mccarthy any position where even he wins this now it is a pyrrhic kind of victory where he will be the weakest speaker in history, he will be controlled from the background by people like marjorie taylor greene and the concessions he has made has put essentially the lunatics in charge of the asylum. the lunatics in charge of the as lum. , , asylum. so disrupting kevin mccarthy — asylum. so disruptin...