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At weekly standard. >> the reaction you saw from a lot of senate candidates today was a silence. you did not see a lot of them wanting to talk about this because this is a controversial policy, people not sure how this plays out. as for substance of the interview, interesting legal debate whether or not the words he mentioned, subject to the jurisdiction thereof, one of those that -- paul ryan disagrees with that. many other countries don't have birthright citizenship, the president is right about that. australia and they did in 1986 but did it with an interesting twist, saying that anybody th...

Administration policies. >> well, it's hard to know if it's incompetence or deliberate choice sometimes. they certainly designed some of these policies to be cruel with the expressed purpose of making it a deterrent. i can't fathom the level of cruelty of send thing woman back given the known facts of the case. it's easier for us to talk about here as you point out. but to some extent they have embraced cruelty as a deterrent which itself is striking. >> they've embraced cruelty as a policy driver. >> tool. >> again, these are not liberal judges. these are judges, jacob, who are pointing to th...

Which parents. now they have to sort of re-create all of that. that's why you're hearing them talk about dna tests and the like. it's a giant mess. the fact they won't give the numbers really tells you there's not a good story to be told here, at least not yet in terms of getting these families back together. >> so they have to go to court, most likely, and ask for more time. so if you're these interest groups involved, these humanitarian groups, you have every right to ask. give us the accounting. if you're an american taxpayer, you have every right to ask how much money is being spent, where...

Embarked on a moral train wreck. >> you still have the same failed policy. i think there is a lot of other things we can do before we get to that point. >> what has to change are the policies and the people that are making these policies are making horrendous decisions like separating kids from their parents. we are a major country with major borders so, to me, the issue is what are those policies and please let's get comprehensive immigration reform. ainsley: president says they are all saying that now because they are scared it's going to back fire on them in the mid terms. if you abolish ic...

Bad policy and then there's, you know, this. this is a situation where there are folks like steven miller, they own this. and there's really no other way to look at it. i mean, i think that comparison is fair. because you look at these images, and this is -- this is self-inflicted bad policy. but it's tough, dara, to talk about this through the lens of politics when there are children separated from their parents. and it's very unclear just whether or not the new policy is going to correct it. so this is something that quite frankly when i talked to sources up on capitol hill in the republican...