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The american people about issues affecting them. but we won't take the punches lying down. and vice president believes this is serious. we are at a remarkable moment in history and we all have to be willing to stand on the side of truth, justice, oto reservprese constitution. >> and i hear everything that you are saying. i'm a policy wonk. but today it is easier to talk about policy stuff from elizabeth warren than joe biden because unfortunately you are still talking about this situation. >> ali, look, we believe that this is about donald trump. so the questions that come up when every time a...

Complete grievance mongering sort of -- >> how do you think history will see hem? >> i think terribly. i think all this policy stuff, no one is going to remember this. always go back and look at george wallace. he did some good things as governor. passed three textbooks. nobody is going to remember the free textbook george wallace guy, the george wallace guy. i think it's a complete fantasy what has happened with trump and what trump has done to our norms, our rule of law, our sense of public discourse, our sense of truth. all of that's going to be more important than marginal tax cut for corp...

>> of losing your district? >> is being an ex-congressman so bad? they just seem to have no sense of history here and how this is going to be regarded. i just find it incredible. >> it's not the republican party that i grew up with -- >> it's not the republican party of four years ago. >> all the deficits -- >> character counts. personal responsibility. and these are all principles that you might disagree on issues but get strong on russia. >> conservatives used to make fun of liberals for -- >> situational ethics. >> and saying they were victims. >> now the party has become this complete grie...

And declaring unfavorable press coverage to be the result of the press being the enemy of the people. if we are going to champion human rights and democracy, and eventually by the way, climate action. if we're going to champion those things around the world, first we've got to do it at home. if we don't, i don't think anybody else will. we're needed more than i think we've been in a long time. but we've got to actually be practicing what we preach. >> mayor pete, people are focusing now on the campaign. if they want to get involved in your campaign, what do they do? >> peteforamerica.com is a ...

I think i would push back a toony bit of what bill said earlier. part of the reason that democrats flipped the house in 2016 is because they were able to run up the numbers amongst suburban republican women who had never voted democratic before. if you talked to some of the democratic operatives who were involved in some of these key races historically red districts that flipped, it flipped. it wasn't so much a policy issue, it was because they can't watch the news with their kids. they are worried they have to change the channel when the president is talking. and to that extent, some of those...