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Flip-flop, because the end game here is securing the nomination. >> he is responding to the makeup of the democratic primary electorate, which is disproportionately women and in the south disproportionately women of color. and he was advised that if he didn't do this, he would be on the defensive with those groups. i repeat, i think that for the primary, this was politically -- not defending it in policy terms necessarily, but politically it was probably the smart move. he will, if he gets the nomination, have just handed the republicans a lot of ammunition. >> mike: let's get the read out fro...

And racists? does that not raise any concerns to you? >> it's a fair question. of course -- it bothers me when crazy support any legitimate political moment. it bothers me that david duke approves of the president. it bothers me that the -- >> he pretended he didn't know who david duke was. >> it doesn't mean that senator sanders endorses that reprehensible attempted murderer. so if we want to start affixing crazies to political movements, i think that's an unfair way to proceed and we can do it with both sides. would it bother me, of course. it would bother me tremendously more if the preside...

>> joining us now are jonathan frum. and jonathan, so you've been and jonathan, so you've been inside what i would call the reasonable side of the republican party, where men like mitt romney had spent a lot of time certainly as a massachusetts governor, that's where he was. hard to tell much difference as romney as a massachusetts governor than a mike bloomberg as a mayor in policy terms. your reaction to what you saw romney do today and what you think it means for a senator like him who's now elected to a six-year term and doesn't have to worry about being primaried next year in what is dona...

Does. >> i haven't decided who i'm going to endorse in 2020. i'm going to wait and see what the alternatives are. >> joining us now are jonathan frum. and yawnthen, i want yjonathan, inside what i would call the reasonable side of the republican party, where men like mitt romney had spent a lot of time certainly as a massachusetts governor, that's where he was. hard to tell much difference as romney as a massachusetts governor than a mike bloomberg as a mayor in policy terms. your reaction to what you saw romney do today and what you think it means for a senator like him who's now elected to a...

Asks like a child. let him come out and make the same statements with maxine waters and jerry nadler now that they are heading important committees. >> normally an f minus but this time an incomplete. >> that's worse. he didn't even do the work. >> jonathan. >> he's an f not only in character but terms of what he has accomplished. he has one accomplishment to his name. a tax bill that shoveled money at the super rich. is good economy is not as a result of him. it's not he's done on policy terms that's caused this good economy. he's an f straight across the board. >> thank you so much. good to ...