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To american citizens who are muslims if you did have a ban on anyone of their faith coming into this country. >> i think what trump is doing with his comments yesterday is making explicit in rhetoric what is already implicit in policy terms. we already have had a situation since 9/11 where thousands of muslims were rounded up and deported because they were muslim. e we already have had a situation where mosques are being spied on. we're already having a situation where we have politicians saying we won't allow syrians to come in and claim refugee status because they are syrian. so we already a...

Public debate? we can have it after the midterms? >> i think that's right. what i'm -- when i'm talking to mccarthy and allies they are making an argument he is the stability candidate. let's move on from this cantor mess, try to have boehner stay, mccarthy ascend and not have too much tumult within the ranks. that's his core argument and not making an ideological case. it is a case of stability. >> molly, let's move to immigration here. the rand falling comments are always fascinating. paul has been -- he wanted to be supportive of the gang of eight but when push came to shove he pulled back ...

Will be reached by the end here pretty comfortably, and i think that shows it's been a major -- there's some really pent-up demand. people really want insurance and they want affordable insurance. when offered that possibility, they'll come out of the woodwork. of course they're going to delay until the end. we're all procrastinators. that's big demand and that is the bottom line here. >> the 7 million number was never, as far as i understand it, correct me if i'm wrong, as far as i understand it it was never set as an explicit policy goal. if we get that number, then this thing will work. tha...

Fortunately the 7 million which was as you point out the original projection without the two months of screwed up website will be reached by the end here pretty comfortably, and i think that shows it's been a major -- there's some really pent-up demand. people really want insurance and they want affordable insurance. when offered that possibility, they'll come out of the woodwork. of course they're going to delay until the end. we're all procrastinators. that's big demand and that is the bottom line here. >> the 7 million number was never, as far as i understand it, correct me if i'm wrong, as...

To regulate carbon emissions. if he takes it, you will eye z a lawsuit brought and then it will be interesting to see them turn around and say, wait a minute, that's not true when barack obama is present. >> you've also said if you look at the ways he's used executive orders, as you said, it not as sweeping as some of the other things. i've read that you say it's within the mainstream of how the president and presidents use this executive power. >> definitely. this is no more overreaching and the earlier nonsense that we heard about all the czars that the president had, which was mostly just c...