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Republicans by putting forward these pay-fors that he had to know, and everybody who's worked on legislation knows, the pay for side is the hard -- that's the killer. that's the part that is very, very hard to get either right politically or in policy terms. what alternatives? what pay for alternatives did the president have that he could possibly have chosen that would have both made sense to his party and had a chance with republicans? >> there's probably not a lot that would have a chance in the broad sense. so right now we're in a situation where the super committee needs to come up with a...

Has a budget surplus right now and how many states would like to have that. and one last thing i'd like to say about mitch daniels, he he he did the thing that few governors had the courage to do, took on the teacher unions and put in tenure reforms and elevated not based on seniority, but based on performance, what a concept. >> well, i think that the other states which i would mention is andrew cuomo, the government of new york, with a democratic legislature in part and a republican state senate has really resisted what has been the tax and spend model, putting a property tax cap of 2% and c...

President obama versus house speaker john boehner or even if you want to get really geeky between senator harry reid and congressman paul ryan. we tend to talk about politics in those terms, in terms of personalities, obviously, or the radical budget proposal of the week that's never going anywhere, but will drag the whole country to the right in policy terms anyway while it's trying. we tend to talk act politics in america like that. frankly, those are stand-ins for the real debate between the two parties' visions of what government ought to do, of what politics are for, not about what people...

We tend to talk about politics in those terms, in terms of personalities, obviously, or the radical budget proposal of the week that's never going anywhere, but will drag the whole country to the right in policy terms anyway while it's trying. we tend to talk act politics in america like that. frankly, those are stand-ins for the real debate between the two parties' visions of what government ought to do, of what politics are for, not about what people say they're for, but how they will act if they are in office. and if you want to know about that, you have to go here, to michigan's great sout...