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About reform, it start small. it might be border security. and then we add legal immigration. we had the worker visas. it starts to sort of snowball and by that no one can agree on what is in the package. >> i would just say, i was looking at some of the latest poll data, which -- which party do you trust more on immigration. republicans were favored by ten points. so, i think there's obviously some politics that are going on here. one thing we were just discussing this that just goes through my head is that americans have very complicated views on all of this. so, if you say, if someone is in...

Or if i had lost three or four points over couple months, i always looked at the lines. what's so confounding about the polls in the last couple week, most of these races, overwhelming number, are tightening up, on both sides. >> absolutely. and what's interesting is that the assumptions behind polling i think have been called into question, because the country is not only so polarized but the demographics have changed so dramatically. who's the likely voter they're looking for? to. >> that's the problem. >> think about poll data and young millennials and gen-z'ers and how they're changing. we...

The polling data also revealed that almost 30 percent of voters believe there will come a time when citizens will have to take up arms against the government.

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