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Mass adulation in person. it's not enough that his twitter follow number goes up. it's not enough that he gets a reaction from us on television. he needs the visceral human sound of adulation. >> the mayor of new york for years, how am i doing? >> how am i doing? and that's -- >> we have two more topics. joe biden has been restrained but it may be his challenge could be his highest poll number will be the first day of his campaign. they are already going after him. >> yeah, i think that's true. joe biden's biggest disadvantage is it's no longer four years ago. politics has changed dramatically...

Joe biden has been restrained but his challenge could be his highest poll number will be the first day of his campaign because they're already going after him. >> i think his biggest disadvantage is it's no longer four years ago. >> where were you four years ago? >> right. so we're already seeing democrats being very critical of the obama administration. every video from the anita hill hearing and everything before is going to seem terribly out of of step in 2020. i think it's tough when you're going against -- >> the cosmos has shifted. >> and i've been obsessively reporting on what joe is up...

You wanted who is closer to his issues nine out of ten were voting for donald trump against democrats. i think our party comes together next year. >> there is a poll number from nbc, wall street journal. 38% say they want a third party and that's the highest in a 16-year track. so obviously this is a country that guess what? since 1989, democrats have become more liberal and all-time record and republicans have become all more conservative and more moderate and there is certainly an impulse in the middle of the country that sees some other option between the two parties. >> it's funny you put ...

Issues a candidate can try to get a hold of. so many people and one important thing, there will be one more super bowl before there is a vote. there is a long time to go. >> i want to say there was a headline in george wills' column that was better than putting up the poll number. and a week of divisiveness and both parties, and he said democrats, his headline, democrats are having a bad week and howard schultz is having a good one. howard schultz thinks that's his opening and they think they'll go with a sanders like and trump is over here with his committed base and is this a week that's a r...

Hafrkd's institute of politics. great to have both of you with us. let me start with this new nbc poll number we have showing president trump's approval rating at 46%. that's three points higher than it was a few months ago. should democrats be worried that trump's numbers aren't lower given everything that has happened to this presidency so far? >> yeah, i think that's right. that's the right way to look at it because if you look at the nbc/"wall street journal" poll, 46% job approval is the highest he's ever been at in that particular poll. it is important to point out in a generic ballot ra...