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This is designed to go to the supreme court, that they are hoping that the supreme court takes this up, in fact, he made it possibly so extreme so the supreme court is forced to take this up because what they want, i guess, is a heartbeat bill or something to that effect. so what do you think of their motivations here? >> i think it is sick and i think it's cruel that they are willing to endanger the lives of literally millions of women for some sort of political pat on the back or something, some sort of political advancement in their agendas or something. i'm not sure if they understand the ...

Around waiting for the president to call. if he was smart right now he would engage in a back channel negotiation with the iranians like we did under president obama so that he could build up credibility through that secret channel and convince the iranians that he is actually taking negotiations seriously. >> that is what he's saying he wants. he wants to develop some back channel diplomatic route to them, but is that possible? >> it might be possible behind the scenes if we establish credibility with the iranians. i don't know that that's what he's saying. he is the swiss coming to washingto...