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Because if you listen to joe manchin and joe lieberman, who was out there today at the town hall, two of these leaders. they go out again and again, and they say we don't like extremism of the left or right. >> and they can't name the left. >> what they do, they're equating joe biden as extreme as donald trump. the guy who tried to overthrow the election and kind of the government, you just did this long segment on, has a whole plan. they say that joe biden is as extreme as donald trump. right there, there's a complete dishonesty, and then when they start hiding their sources of money, it can ...

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Persuasive to the american public. while we await that information, though, i think it's fair to say that everybody's also just waiting for the other shoe to drop in terms of more nuclear political material like this. you saw the polling effect of that tape. what's going to happen when there's more trump being caught on tape saying stuff like this? because there will be other instances that turn up of donald trump talking on tape about women and about sex in a way that is likely to skeeth out the population. even if you're talking about stuff that has already circulated, it's a matter of looki...

38%. you are not going to win that office if 38% of the people think he shouldn't be allowed to run for it. i mean, we will see in subsequent polling whether the impact of that tape wears off or whether donald trump's defense at last night's debate was that it was just locker room talk and he's going to go blow up isis, whether that defense is persuasive to the american public. while we await that information, though, i think it's fair to say that everybody's also just waiting for the other shoe to drop in terms of more nuclear political material like this. you saw the polling effect of that t...

Better. and he is somebody who's very good with words, and very good with sound bites. and i think in that way, he could be a good choice, but i think people still seem to think, at least the conventional wisdom is that it would be rob portman. >> my boy, pawlenty, embarrassed me a little bit with that beer and foam thing. he went way too far with the foam thing. jonathan capehart, there's a surprise here that we have in a public policy polling robo survey. not the most reliable form in the world, but it says that condoleezza rice, as a running mate, could give mitt romney a six-point advantag...