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For it because if you cut -- if you cut billions and billions of dollars in taxes, you have to make that up somewhere, which means you've got to cut billions and billions of dollars worth of services. where are you going to cut it from? you know where he's going to try to take it out of. it's going to come out of health care. it's going to come out of medicare. it's going to come out of social security. that's the long game that they're playing, and everybody better be aware of this because they are damn well going to do it. if you don't think they're going to do it, then you're one of the peo...

Are doing great and we are going to have to pay for it. if you cut billions and billions of dollars in taxes, you have to make it up somewhere. you have to cut billions and billions worth of services. where are you going to cut it from? you know where he will take it out of. it's coming out of health care and medicare and social security. that's the game they are playing. everybody better be aware of it. if you don't think they are going to do it, you are saying there is no way an idiot can win the presidency of the united states. they are not idiots. they know how to do this and they are goin...

That show trump in the lead. even fox news' poll has him down. it's hard to argue that he isn't just down. >> the interesting thing is i've been doing a lot of traveling across the state of michigan as a trump co-chair in michigan and as we go around it's not traditional republicans coming out in the red, white and blue with elephants on the lapels, it's not a tea party. it's a different crowd of folks that are coming out that says if you're using the modeling that the presidential election in 2012 and 2008, that modeling is wrong andhat's probably what most of these polls are based on. >> he'...

Community because they're being reminded of when sharon engel was running against senator reid and basically started to criminalize their parents and their family members so that basically was the silent minority that came out and voted in droves for senator reid. that folks had not detected because we didn't have traditional voting methods -- polling methods that were actually talking to these individuals on the ground. >> interesting, because the debate tenure that changed greatly from the first one. don't think we've heard a conclusive description of donald trump's immigration plan. remembe...

What this is showing is that maybe there is a feeling that they don't want to be embarra embarrassed by others judging them for supporting trump, meaning like if they get into a voting booth, and close the curtain, nobody will see how they vote, and they will vote for trump. >> well, here is the thing, and we don't know the question on the internet polling, because there has always been an issue of methodology, and always an issue of the polling methods there, and very difficult, and some say just about impossible to get an accurate sampling on the individuals with the plus/minus, or the margi...