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>> i think as democrats we are going to succeed when we dream big and fight hard, not when we dream small and quit before we get started. >> that shrunk to seven in december thanks to party's increasing in polling thresholds. no question defined the democratic primary fight this year more than this. do voters want an idealogical revolution or a candidate focused on relief from donald trump? at the top of the field bernie sanders and elizabeth warren are the revolutionaries, promising sweeping change, while former vice president joe biden, mayor pete buttigieg and amy klobuchar say incremental ...

Threshold. it's been that way, so what has changed since the debate last week? >> well, those thresholds have increased modestly. it is now 5% in four qualifying polls, up from 4%, or 7% in two qualifying polls from the early states. that's up from 6%. also, the donor threshold has increased from $200,000 to $225,000. that's a small increase and doesn't seem likely to exclude anyone, but those polling thresholds 5% is a number that only a handful of candidates have achieved. >> right. >> you mentioned that only five have qualified thus far, and only a couple more really are in the ball game he...

Big and fight hard. not when we dream small and quit before we get started. >> reporter: shrinking to seven in december thanks to the polling thresholds. no question defined the democratic primary fight this year more than this. do voters want an ideology revolution or a candidate focused on relief from donald trump. at top of the field, bernie sanders and elizabeth warren are the revolutionaries promising sweeping change and former vice president joe biden and mayor pete buttigieg and senator amy klobuchar say in kremental change is more realistic. nowhere was this more on display on on obama...

Happens. >> the dnc polling thresholds has kept you from participating in several debates including last night's. do you think that the dynamic of the race changed much after last night's debate? >> i don't think the dynamic of the race changed after last night's debate just like i don't think it's changed after any of these debates. you know, the debates have not really helped democrats. and in new hampshire and in iowa this race is less consolidated today than it was six weeks ago or six months ago or a year ago because people are trying to figure out who the best person is to pay back trump...

You look at who was polling at 4%, you had people polling over 4% like jesse jackson and al sharpton and barack obama and kamala harris. and so our polling thresholds and our thresholds for our debates, to say that they have somehow leaving people of color off this stage is not only wrong but it's insulting. it's insulting as a woman of color, and someone who is involved in the debate process. that's something that we want to make sure we have fair and inclusive but at the same time we are also looking at history and where we were at this point in the race in previous years. >> xochitl hinojos...