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Apparent promise is we will be lesko err sieve, that's not an appealing negotiating strategy. >> in your mind is the united states in a worse position vis-a-vis north korea than a week ago? >> no, to his credit and i was concerned about this, i thought -- you know, the president did walk away. you know, no deal is better than a bad deal and i was concerned that in an effort to do a -- generate a counter distraction to the cohen hearing that he might concede something like agreeing over time to take all u.s. forces off the peninsula, which i think would be a huge blunder. well, he didn't do tha...

Things are related. i also think he'll have to do something, there will have to be something face-saving that president trump can say i got a better deal because i was so tough on the europeans, i was so tough on other folks. maybe it's a commitment to have sanctions with respect to ballistic missile test, something along those lines. and i hope that president macron can convince him of some symbolic new gesture to strengthen the deal as a way for them to preserve the deal. >> seems like if there's any international leader who could do that, it would be macron, snow? >> today, yeah. the other ...

Special counsel against political interference. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. >> do you believe russia has something on him? >> i -- i believe that the russians would -- would not -- um -- um -- they would opt for things to do if they believe it was in their interest and the russians have had long experience with mr. trump and may have things that they could expose. >> something personal, perhaps? >> perhaps. perhaps. >> you just said you thought it was possible that the russians had something on donald trump. you were director of the cia until 2017. is that speculation o...

Position vis-a-vis vladimir putin personally, so one can again speculate that maybe there's something there. >> you've worked for six american presidents, both republican and democrat. have you ever spoken out in the way that you are doing now against one of your former bosses? >> no. this is the second time that i've retired. the first time i didn't speak out at all. i said some things in terms of policies, but never about the person. and this is a very different person who inhabits the oval office. again, he lacks integrity. he is dishonest, mean spirited and not taking into account what rea...

That it was in their interest and the russians, i think, have had long experience with mr. trump and may have things that they could expose and reveal. >> something personal perhaps? >> perhaps. perhaps. >> you just said you thought it was possible that the russians had something on donald trump. director of the c.i.a. until 2017. is that speculation, or are you talking with information? >> i'm saying that perhaps the russians have something and that's why mr. trump is concerned. mr. trump knows better than any one of us whether or not the russians may have something on him. so, i think it's v...