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Votes anyway? that's the thing. scott brown loses, they change the rules, they go to 50. and lbj back in august would have looked at the numbers and called democrats in and said, if you are not going to give me 60, joe lieberman, i'm going with 50. i'm going with reconciliation. a lot of blood letting. and so barack obama now is running the type of white house and the type of political operation that he loathed on the campaign trail. make no mistake of it, it is a karl rove style 50-plus one operation. >> when was vice president biden? he was supposed to be the genius from the senate. >> i thi...

>> the questions we look here and will throw around the table are what are the long-term consequences going to look like, and what does this feel like in five years when things kick in? and what have been sort of the -- i think the learning points, let's put it that way, of this presidency and his first year? >> of lesley's four points, i can agree of one. >> that's good. >> i think historically, lesley, i have been talking about it for a year, how the president has never run anything before. this is a guy that voted present 100 times in the illinois legislature. i cast 10,000 votes probably i...