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Relationship has worsened. he tried again to muck around in our elections this last month. and we are seeing a continued effort along those lines. >> evan, why hasn't russia been deterred? >> well, they haven't been deterred because the u.s. government has not given them reason to be deterred. and that's saying something. here we are, two years after the 2016 election and still, we have not taken action that is sufficient to set the russians back, to push their posture back. instead, they continue to be aggressive. they continue to be to ttry to americans, turn americans against each other, co...

The "wall street journal" reported in march that flynn was actively seeking cooperation. what are we to make of the fact that he essentially put this flag out back then. it appears that it is only now that that may have happened? >> i'm not sure if he was -- that was his posture back in april. i think this is something more recent. i think one of the largest motivating factors here is the fact that flynn's son was essentially involved in the same things that he was, and that they did everything together. and his son faces the same criminal exposure, and that at this point, flynn's lawyers unde...

Interaction was comey. >> there has been some cooperation whether flynn will cooperate for a long time. the "wall street journal" reported in march that flynn was actively seeking cooperation. what are we to make of the fact that he essentially put this flag out back then. it appears that it is only now that that may have happened? >> i'm not sure if he was -- that was his posture back in april. i think this is something more recent. i think one of the largest motivating factors here is the fact that flynn's son was essentially involved in the same things that he was, and that they did everyth...