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Long as i had and being on msnbc and reporting on this since march. i think maybe the surprise will be for the viewer to see that not only have the stories on the front page of the newspapers and the a block of the evening news about covid-19 affecting our food supply, hunger in america and the closure of restaurants, not only are the stories still around, the trouble has trebled. the need has gotten more intense and as you heard karen washington say to joy, the c-19 pandemic along with the cultural pandemic that we're enduring as well right now has ripped off the covering on so many of these ...

Did. that is i think a strategic problem. >> yeah. all of it really important. and i think part of the points you're making, heather is being quite bhonls where she thinks trump has moved the conversation but also the historical context and yes, and to cheryl's point, whether people are living the same when there are real world things going on. thank you to all of you. we have a 30-second break. when we come back, we've got a lot in the show including james carville. stay with us. cluding james carville stay with us whether it's over the phone, online, or in your office, we're here to listen a...

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The president's talked before about wanting to purchase greenland, but one time before we went down, he told us, not only did he want to purchase greenland, he actually said he wanted to see if we could sell puerto rico. could we swap puerto rico for greenland, because in his words, puerto rico was dirty and the people were poor. >> that really happened. it's just another example of the president's racist views now coming to light, out in the public. that was miles taylor. he's the former chief of staff at homeland security, who in recent days has publicly slammed trump for politicizing the de...