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And sought to send a note to the judge who was involved in his sentencing hearing back in december to say, "look, we think he has been a valuable witness and we would recommend leniency in his sentencing." the judgment but the recommendations of the u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york on that. harris? >> harris: john roberts, thank you very much. i want to bring in the former dear jacob prosecutor and partner. people can't see, but you are shaking your head as john roberts is supporting that last bit of michael cohen. why? >> it's a mixed bag. when you talk about cohen at the s...

They invited the judge to go a little below the 42-month guideline. so i'm not sure that the two sides are all that far apart. the mueller case was a much smaller potato case in terms of the exposure for mr. cohen, so they were necessarily in a backseat to manhattan. i'm not sure they were that far apart, i just think the southern district memo did not warm up to the memo that mr. cohen's attorneys filed. charles: you would not get that interpretation from reading a newspaper, from reading a headline, from watching the media. this is president trump's personal attorney, he knew everything, thi...