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Quite sure if house democrats are actually weighing that at the moment. it seems like we are going full steam ahead to have this vote on thursday. that is the direction most people have indicated. you have also seen people like max rose, you know, one of the front liners who represents staten island who's already come out to say he's going to vote to support that. so i don't think that's going to happen. but i think where congressman jolly is right is that this is, you know, a potential liability for democrats. this is -- if these articles are voted upon and it makes it to a senate trial, this...

Don't blame me. and i think you might see more of this. and i think this is a signal of what's ahead. >> and the other thing is they can't really lie to congress because the feds are involved now. i mean, this whole case involves giuliani and these two guys who are under indictment. >> theres a lot of potential liability. >> speaking of rudy giuliani, meantime the "new york times" times reports that the southern district of new york is investigating rudy giuliani where once upon a time he himself was a u.s. attorney, actually led that office. do i have that right? >> yes. >> thanks, team. that...

Just one thing, if i may, going back to what you are asking about nancy pelosi's focus. i think she's focusing on the one element of the conversation that i think a lot of people agree is problematic. she doesn't want to lose focus on that because i think in the president's words when you break it down in terms of potential liability, most of the phone call was what he calls perfect but when you get to the part about joe biden and rudy giuliani's involvement in the process, i think that's the avenue for them where they see that as abuse of power with regard to the election. it's behavior that'...

As you can imagine there are lots of complexities and we wanted to be sure we understood their side of the story. the trump organization sent back a paragraph saying we're doing our best to identify any workers who have given us false documents. if we find them we'll terminate them. >> is there any difference in terms of potential liability for the president and his business here that there are these allegations? we've now seen repeated allegations from multiple trump properties that trump employees, trump managers, trump supervisors, didn't just hire people who they knew to be undocumented. t...

Us tonight. appreciate you being here. >> great to be here. >> what is the trump organization's response or the trump white house's response to your reporting at this point? >> the white house's response was nothing. we sent them questions asking how much contact has president trump had with this company, has he had contact with i.c.e. to push them away from enforcing the immigration laws at his company. the response was nothing. they declined to comment. president's company responded very briefly. we'd sent them a lot of questions about this. as you can imagine, there are a lot of complexitie...