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That's hip hop. that's my man. and he came out and i just kind of -- grab and shake his hand and he was surrounded by security and i yelled and he smiled and just kept walking in and for me as a 17-year-old kid just to get as the doctor said, a twinkle in his eye, just a look, just a look was good enough for me and certainly inspired my work ever since. >> dr. barry, it sounds like michael could have been with you when you were there raising hell and would have been a great asset when you were there. >> that's right. but let me just make sure i say this for your audience. >> yes. >> although t...

Good thing. >> the fast-food workers by the way want $15 an hour. want to add that as context. that is the argument though, if you give people higher minimum wage, they will have more disposable income, become more active consumers an better for us all. what do you think? >> i think number one we should acknowledge there is real problem in stagnant wage growth in very, very bad recovery and that is what people are feeling and that is what is behind this push but the trouble is, just doesn't solve the problem. it certainly doesn't solve the poverty problem. only 2% of american workers are paid ...

Many other countries around the world. so it is at least deserving of understanding. and then as mayor landrieu said, we know there are many components to it. it is about education, about jobs, about literacy, about hunger, about poverty. we have a poverty problem in the united states. not an excuse, but part of an explanation for things that go on. >> the problem is it's in the cycle then. you don't have the power to put these kids to work. you can't take everybody 18 to 25 in north philly and get them a job. would be wonderful if you could. >> that would be great. when we're focused on an is...

1980. that's more people killed than all the wars. >> there is a cultural violence, i believe, in the united states of america. it is worthy of study and review and analysis to figure it out. as the president said in a clip you showed, there are things going on in the united states of america that are unheard of in many other countries around the world. so it is at least deserving of understanding. and then as mayor landrieu said, we know there are many components to it. it is about education, about jobs, about literacy, about hunger, about poverty. we have a poverty problem in the united stat...

>> can't solve the problems because their problems are cultural. you have 3% of fourth graders reading at the national math standards, 47% of detroit residents are functionally illiterate. 79% of detroit children are born to unmarried mothers. they don't have a fiscal problem, steve, they have a cultural collapse. >> if we really want to solve the poverty problem, do we have to start emphasizing traditional values again, things like two parent households and a good education? let's see what the panel thinks. andrea? >> yes, and what i was surprised to see in this study was that white single mo...