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Politician who really said we could eliminate poverty in this country and i have a plan to do that, to eliminate poverty. i think there's a lot going on, job creation, a lot pitched toward the middle class. i understand the political reasons for that. morally, it's inexcusable. we have the leaf level of profrt, vast, tremendous, splendid wealth. it was important for us to do that. >> it's interesting when greg was writing this and he asked for both campaigns to weigh in on poverty, the only campaign that bothered to respond was the obama campaign. what i like about that is it gives us a space ...

Choice neighborhood programs to address housing, crime and transportation, right, so that's the poverty question and the response was about neighborhood. i thought all right, i need to talk to mindy here because it was indication of a recognition that it is the structures. so when you think about neighborhoods sort of the place where poverty is, what's the story that you can tell us about how place impacts poverty? >> it's an important story. i think it's actually the one piece of the poverty conversation that's been left out. that is, that for 60 years we've had policies of destroying neighbo...