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His condition when they found him. now i spent six days in p.o.w. school. i lost 22 pounds in 60 days. this guy looked healthy, he was walking, he didn't appear to have any exposure wounds on his skin or his face and again, i'm glad mr. jordan is alive but i want to ask him some questions. >> the coast guard tells cnn that they have no reason to doubt jordan's story. now that the president has this nuclear deal or framework for a deal with iran he has to sell it to congress. why it may not be as easy as one would think. i don't know if anyone thought it would be easy but it's probably toughe...

It was under medical supervision, the maximum time they could do it was 40 seconds o. average, they did it 10 seconds. is that torture as president obama claims? >> no, it is not torture. i think there is a second issue which is, did it work? it worked. it worked and it kept the united states safe for 10 years, even if it's torture, it's probably worth doing. >> sean: in other words, because we save lives. deborah, your brother was the pilot of the american airlines flight that went into the pentagon. >> correct. >> sean: you are one of the family members, you lost a loved one that day. on 9/1...

It was under medical supervision, the maximum time they could do it was 40 seconds o. average, they did it 10 seconds. is that torture as president obama claims? >> no, it is not torture. i think there is a second issue which is, did it work? it worked. it worked and it kept the united states safe for 10 years, even if it's torture, it's probably worth doing. >> sean: in other words, because we save lives. deborah, your brother was the pilot of the american airlines flight that went into the pentagon. >> correct. >> sean: you are one of the family members, you lost a loved one that day. on 9/1...

So know what it's like. all do you when you torture someone is they admit to anything to end the torture. it has no credibility to it. >> larry: why were you waterboarded? >> when i finished navy s.e.a.l. training prior to going to vietnam, it was required to go to a p.o.w. school. it was at that school that virtually all of us got waterboarded. >> larry: when it comes do approval rating obama is the most polarizing the first term president in gallup history. i thought he was going to bring us together. what happened? >> i think it's the polarization of these two political parties, larry. they...