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the us and south korea have carried outjoint military exercises over the waters around the korean peninsula. now on bbc news, it's hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk. i'm stephen sackur. taliban rule was re—established in afghanistan almost a year ago. for afghans, it's meant the return of repressive religious authoritarianism and new levels of economic impoverishment. the mullahs seem ready to absorb indefinite isolation to reimpose their orthodoxy. but is that a sustainable strategy? my guest is fawzia koofi, former deputy speaker of the afghan parliament, now a democracy activist in ...

to absorb indefinite isolation to re—impose their orthodoxy. but is that a sustainable strategy? my guest is fawzia koofi, former deputy speaker of the afghan parliament, now a democracy activist in exile. is there any glimmer of light in afghanistan's darkness? fawzia koofi, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. it's good to be with you. well, it's great to have you in this studio. i'm sure you wish you were speaking to me from kabul, from afghanistan, but you have been in exile since the taliban returned to power. how difficult for you is that separation from your country? extremely di...

Government negotiators in 2020 trying to thrash out some sort of power—sharing compromise deal with the taliban before the us—led nato forces decided to unilaterally withdraw from the country. ijust wonder, given what you're telling me about what they said at the time, were you naive? did you get the taliban wrong, given the way they are today? i had hoped that taliban have come to this understanding that afghan society has changed, that afghan society in the last 20 years has transformed. let's not forget that in 1996, they took over from an already broken system. they took overfrom a gov...

Leadership handled this situation? do you feel that they have let the afghan people down, that they were corrupt, part of the problem? >> they were, unfortunately, that president was also imposed by americans to us. he was never elected. yes, there was election but he never won any election. not only a power centric. he wanted to control everything by himself and key people and fleed the country without penal and a lot of money. people of afghanistan feel so betrayal. it is morally so inappropriate. we have never had in our history a president. sitting president that could run like this from l...