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Gone down without his direction and certainly not his knowledge. >> you met him a couple of times. what's your read on him? >> well, you know, i kind of changed my opinion from the first time i met him right after he became minister of defense and then i met him again here in the states late in my time as dni. i thought he had a vision for reform, but i also think that his arrogance, and this is a classic case of absolute power corrupting absolutely. and he thinks he can get away with anything. he's a very young, headstrong man, and it doesn't seem as though there are any constraints on him. c...

Open. there was no smiling here, but what's the message? >> the message, which is very regrettable, is it's kind of business as usual. we're going to continue to conduct business with the saudis, specifically mohammed bin salman, who for my money has got blood on his hands here. there's no way this could have gone down without his direction and certainly not his knowledge. >> you met him a couple of times. what's your read on him? >> well, you know, i kind of changed my opinion from the first time i met him right after he became minister of defense and then i met him again here in the states l...

>> some of the criticisms you've made are similar to the criticisms jamal khashoggi has made. he wasn't the harshest critic of saudi arabia. >> i read the columns. on the one hand, mbs is doing some good stuff. on the other hand i wish he'd be a true progressive. part of the problem of autocrats is they are very thin skinned. in his case you have the case of absolute power corrupting absolutely. >> one can wonder why donald trump is sympathetic to him, jennifer ruben. it's very strange. we have all sorts of people, republicans, democrats being critical of the fact that the white house seems to...

On the one hand, mbs is doing some good stuff. on the other hand i wish he'd be a true progressive. part of the problem of autocrats is they are very thin skinned. in his case you have the case of absolute power corrupting absolutely. >> one can wonder why donald trump is sympathetic to him, jennifer ruben. it's very strange. we have all sorts of people, republicans, democrats being critical of the fact that the white house seems to be floating theories that the saudis would like to put out there to see how they'll go over and have the least amount of consequence for the saudis. why is the pre...

From james comey he wrote this. he says this republican congress has proven incapable of fulfilling the founder's design that ambition must counteract ambition. all who believe must vote this fall. history has its eyes on us. look, i understand you're a democrat. i'm just wondering if tweets like this from comey who said during the hearings he's a registered republican but no longer is right now because of what's going on, does this make him appear partisan? >> look, i think there's a better quote. something about absolute power corrupting absolutely. it gets to the same message that