open. there was no smiling here, but what's the message? >> the message, which is very regrettable, is it's kind of business as usual. we're going to continue to conduct business with the saudis, specifically mohammed bin salman, who for my money has got blood on his hands here. there's no way this could have gone down without his direction and certainly not his knowledge. >> you met him a couple of times. what's your read on him? >> well, you know, i kind of changed my opinion from the first time i met him right after he became minister of defense and then i met him again here in the states late in my time as dni. i thought he had a vision for reform, but i also think that his arrogance, and this is a classic case of absolute power corrupting absolutely. and he thinks he can get away with anything. he's a very young, headstrong man, and it doesn't seem as though there are any constraints on him. certainly not from his father, who's old and failing, or the