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On the cease and desist letter. >> it makes it seem like it's not a one-time thing. >> you see a small group of people that go around -- there's jay who has been representing by the pr guy who represented many of the characters involved in this crisis. you start to get a picture of a sort of new york that these people have access to that trump was a part of and now is at the center of. >> if you a lawyer ton show that's doing legal work for me i'll let you know that. joyce, my sense is that michael cohen, when you take a step back and sort of process the raid yesterday he is facing very very

>> it makes it seem like it's not a one-time thing. >> you see a small group of people that go around -- there's jay who has been representing by the pr guy who represented many of the characters involved in this crisis. you start to get a picture of a sort of new york that these people have access to that trump was a part of and now is at the center of. >> if you a lawyer ton show that's doing legal work for me i'll let you know that. joyce, my sense is that michael cohen, when you take a step back and sort of process the raid

You have an e-mail from the pr guy saying the russian government wants to help your campaign and donald trump says love it. isn't that collusion? >> or willingness to collude. >> an interest in. >> actually committing something wrong. what people forget about the trump campaign and the why some of these meetings were able to take place is what made us so successful is the fact we were small. we met with people that normal campaigns wouldn't traditionally meet with. >> spies. >> like volunteers. >> like spies. >> who then have pled guilty and cut a deal. >> for lying to -- >> when we come back ...

The threat. the threat is only as good as it's source. >> i think i've answered the question. i think when people tune in on the 25th of march, they'll know she's shooting straight. >> you can yes-no on that. you're a lawyer, not a pr guy. it's not about hyping the interview. >> i don't have to hype this interview. >> i hear you, and you shouldn't. you're the lawyer, not a pr guy. but the idea of was this somebody close to the president of the united states? >> again, i'm not looking to hype the interview because the interview is going to get whatever ratings -- >> will that question be answer...

Meeting in trump tower that's under scrutiny by mueller. there were a lot of shady characters also at the pageant. russian money launderers was there. the russian mafia was there. but drifrp didn't care about that. when they had meeting in las vegas for the miss universe pageant donald trump was surrounded by questionable people there too all with the same falters, the goldstein pr guy and the agalarovs. and they are associatewood the trump tower meeting in june. anybody believing that trump dnts know about this strains credulity. >> and the contacts with russia. alice, i want to ask you, thou...