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If it drags on, defense have to face to say what they're gathering, whether it's valid or not. >> on the one hand, the longer the evidence drags on there's always an opportunity togs uncor more medicine. but politically, from a pr standpoint, the longer the investigation drags on, the public may start thinking about what is this all about. especially in a case like this where the core facts are really driving this case fromac the beginning. and so far, the facts that have been uncovered have supported those core facts that initiated this impeachment inquiry. butch there's always the chance tha...

Attempts by these folks. this is -- katy, as we know, this is what donald trump does, overexaggerates everything, whatever it is. and this is the pr head start that essentially the trump administration -- the president is getting, thanks to the fact that his attorney general that made this assessment. and this is where democrats are in a huge box here. we're all taking bill barr's word for the -- clearly, robert mueller found troubling evidence on the obstruction question. because he could not come to a conclusion. he left it for the attorney general to come to this conclusion. so he found tro...

Lot. >> congressman connelly, you spoke to in the hearing yesterday. we learn today from the chairman of your committee, the oversight committee, that elijah cummings, that he wants to have all of the people that michael cohen mentioned yesterday in testimony appear before the committee. ivanka trump, who is mentioned, eric donald trump, allen weisselberg. what do you want to hear from them? >> i hope we will tread carefully about hearing or compelling testimony from members of the family. i think the optics of that are very dangerous. >> you think that could backfire? >> i think it could back...

There weren't performances. my colleagues in the minority party, the republicans didn't do the sort of public castigating of michael cohen that they did so much of yesterday. but it was a very -- again, the chairman said this in his public statement today. it was a very, very fruitful hearing in which we learned a lot. >> congressman connelly, you spoke to in the hearing yesterday. we learn today from the chairman of your committee, the oversight committee, that elijah cummings, that he wants to have all of the people that michael cohen mentioned yesterday in testimony appear before the commit...

When it comes to it. so the dna evidence, to your question, that's not going to impact the analysis when it comes to whether or not r. kelly gets bail. again, bail is not punitive. it doesn't have anything to do with sort of the overarching elements of the case. i think it is a bad fact. it is a bad fact to have sort of from a pr standpoint and certainly when it comes to the merits of the case but i don't think it will impact the bail analysis here. >> caroline just said her take away from sara's report was the physical evidence, ronaldo, what's yours? >> that is certainly one big take-away as...