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Up before the supreme court. meanwhile the paper says that trump's lawyer, rudy giuliani and other advisors have begun to prepare trump for a possible sitdown with bob mueller. that includes practice sessions to help with this process. but in a tweet yesterday, christie said he has not been asked by anyone to do anything of the source. >> danny, great to have back with this. what is your legal reactions to the president's claims that he can pardon himself and can he reallyo that? >> the president said his pardon power was absolute. the president's pardon power has always been limited. it is on...

Created an alternate narrative to where they are going. >> harris: figuratively. obviously. you touched on something and i'm about to talk with former trump campaign manager corey lewandowski. so i'll bring this up with him. you said that for the purpose of this report that may come out that they are still going to do the practice sessions or whatever we are calling them. i just want to make sure i heard you right. >> john: yeah. i think what they would probably do is ask the question the -- that robert mueller wanted to ask him. i don't know how many but there were 52 in the listing obtained ...

In the libby investigation. you give the subject a chance to come forward. now, he may well say, i want to take the 5 th. but it's a standard procedure to hear from them before making a final judgment about what was, what was in the guy's mind. and if he doesn't do it you can bring charges anyway. but you would never end an investigation without trying to do this. >> heilman, two questions. does he subpoena the question if they don't agree to an interview? sounds like they're practicing getting ready. and two, what do those practice sessions look like? >> i don't know about the subpoena questi...

Help him make a final decision. i'm not so sure that he's actually made a time final deci. he has an instinct saying i can talk my way through an interview with mueller. these practice sessions inform him whether that's true or not. that's smart for them to practice with him and say, what do you think? how does this inform us about what we should be doing down the line in our final decision? >> that makes more sense. it's not a let's prepare, let's prepare to prepare or not. let's go through what this will mean. >> the lawyers may have set aside four hours while the president was doing obvious...

Even hews remotely closely. >> twitter. >> he is so prone to going on long tangents, uninterrupted and deviating into topics unknown. yes, it's a truly risky proposition for donald trump to sit down with bob mueller. i think that's why so many of his aides have been using the press to dissuade him of that idea. >> there was a "wall street journal" article they were doing practice sessions. >> you're ahead of me. mr. trump's lawyers were only able to walk him through two questions in a four-hour practice session. >> i'm not surprised, honestly. i feel like that was not surprising at all, becaus...