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>> are you more pessimistic? in the state of american politics of not the trump presidency. >> i'm a hopeless optimist. i think they'll find a way to get things done. the tax bill, should, can be and always was bipartisan. health care is probably the toughest nut to crack, and infrastructure. i feel like senators will go across the aisle and say what can we do to make the good for new york as well as texas? >> the asterisk is they have to be more practicing mattic and more bipartisan. if they can do it. >> you were two who were when you first got into politics, turn two in the minority in your...

But then justice alito toward the end of the oral argument, he said if we do get out ahead of it, aren't we thwarting the democratic process? and he seemed to use that as his practicing mattic reason as opposed to the orange reining reason for letting prop 8 stand and letting the process play out in other states in the country. >> i would love to go and ask those people who want every child to have a mom and a dad if they are against divorce or against single parents. my question to you, it is unconstitutional to have laws that ban rights to one specific group of people. so why is it unlikely ...