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ukraine, and those of a russian spy base in cuba. mike gallagher of wisconsin joined me now, chairman of the house select committee on china. welcome, good to see you again. you wrote this week for my newspaper that the administration is pursuing zombie engagement. what do you mean? >> reporter: like a zombie in a horror movie, rising from the grave the biden administration is bringing back diplomatic and economic engagement from the dead. there are three risks to this approach, the first, even to get to the negotiating table the biden administration is slow rolling steps to defend o...

Honestly about growing ccb aggression, not when/when cooperation which they interpret as we when you die. paul: henry kissinger said relations are so bad, mistrust between the us and china so bad that he worries there could be a risk of more unless relations are repaired. i assume you don't want to sleepwalk into a conflict. what should we do in negotiating with china, talking with them to make sure it doesn't happen? >> the most important thing is to make sure any diplomacy we conduct is backed by a military deterrent, diplomacy without armaments is like music without instruments. we are not ...