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That type of funding considers that they did not know osama bin laden was hiding less than a quarter of a mile from their version of west point. seasoned lawmakers have urged caution. listen to claire mccaskill on the issue of pakistani funding. >> we've got to be very careful about being too absolute about condemning pakistan at this point. we need the roots to our troops to pakistan. we need their airspace for our predator program that's been very effective in wiping out terrorists. so i think we've got to use this as a leverage point. >> i spoke to al rogers, the chairman of the house appro...

Obama administrations between interrogation of suspects, than a lot of liberals will like. that's number one. number two, they have a stepped up predator program where they're stepping up the pace and the operational pace. frankly, the killings of these operatives in pakistan. i think something for wider debate is is, how do we stop the shahzads out there. the truth is, git didn't do anything until he did something. >> pat buchanan, some republicans have been critical of the fact this guy was able to drive his van into times square and park it. this is an open society. as somebody that lives i...

Organizing in pakistan, relative to what we're seeing in united states? >> i think you've got a fragmentation of the taliban which is apparent from the ways we're getting rut and opinions from what happened. but more importantly i think what's happened here, i degree to a certain extent with leon panetta, i think al qaeda is on the ropes. their real center of gravity is in yemen. but in this case, i think they were able to put together -- there's evidence that al qaeda did influence the taliban. they're using the taliban as a proxy to get at us. the taliban are more motivated than ever because...

Make people a little nervous. >> well for that blow-back it seems to be heavily incompetent. are you surprised, roger, that if they're very angry, our use of drones effectively in that region. the northwest frontier. do you think they would send back such an incompetent? >> that may be the reality of what they have to work with these days. if you play out michael's theory here. we've had such great success with the predator program and the pakistani military, in attriting that capability over there, the talent pool they have at their disposal to come back to the united states is simply not as ...

Back such an ind kent. >> that may be the reality of what they have to work with these days. if you play out michael's theory here. we've had such great success with the predator program and the pakistani military, in treading the capability over there. the tafant pool that they have to come back to the united states is simply as good as they would have hoped. >> even though this was a serious attempt like the attorney general said it may be a sign of the type of threat we have to deal with. it means the talent pool used to standpoint it, and even with. >> michael isikoff, i love it, i'm going...