and he needed to see, this is the toughest, smartest, baddest guy in the room. y in the r oom. instead, he s got a nerd in the chair who is just being kind of horribly slapped around by everybody there. and trump s imagining, i am going to put it all on this guy shoulders and tonight, tonight trump has to wonder, is jeffrey clark my gordon lady? is he going to do five years for me? or is he jeff majority? it s going to be the first one to flip? and when he flips, what does he say? yeah, i think all that is true. the other thing that is bad for trump s, he didn t stop, as lawrence is explaining, because it was illegal. he stopped because it looked like it wouldn t work to steal the election. and he still had something that he still wanted to pull off on the sixth. so, this was not just some random i mean, we cover the night of the election, he was lying election i. that was before the thing was called. but he had a lot more time left than, in his mind. here, if that was on the front
but the dialogue today was much more dense. it was much more full. i was never fully satisfied, reading the woodward cost the account of what happened. when i couldn t decide was, why didn t trump do it? why didn t he do it? and i believe it s all on steve engel what s shows him is, this will be the bigger news story. new story, yeah. your letter to georgia will be a small story. this will be a bigger story. and that s what the guy understands. he thought, yeah, that s right. my thing won t be page one, which is the mission. so, it won t work. i don t think he cared about the graveyard. i don t think he cared how many people quit. i don t think that was going to stop him. because he knows, you know, nixon did it, some people quit, so what? right? but that thing it won t work the other one will be the bigger story. yeah, it s not like he has a lot of respect for with a justice department represents. he doesn t want to silly that.
trump was, the person who took over after bill barr as attorney general was jeffrey rosen, who is the third witness today what mr. rosen revealed was how, forgive me, but how this rambo, who had business dealing with election matters at all, how he can t even spell election, ended up at the center of trump s overthrow of the election plot. watch. mr. rosen, on christmas eve, your first official day as the acting attorney general, president trump called you. what did he want to talk about? the same things he was talking about publicly. he wanted to talk about that he thought the election had been stolen or was corrupt. that there was widespread widespread fraud. i told him that our reviews had not shown that to be the case. we had an extended discussion, probably 15, maybe 20 minutes, something like that, with him,
described it, they are all kind of echoing each other s testimonies, because they re really living it in the room. that s to the credit of the committee and of congressman kinzinger. i think what is so important here and what has been revealed at all five hearings is, where everyone s lines were. so, he s willing to burn down the justice department, which we have learned over the last five hearings was all too willing to investigate unfounded allegations of fraud. i mean, bill barr churned the justice department into something that had never been before, election day, and did that. broke precedent. and we learn from mr. rosen and that every day, from bill barr s departure on, he continued in that pattern of investigating these baseless allegations. donoghue himself talks about how he took one of these crazy allegations against around pennsylvania fielded out to the western district attorney of pennsylvania. go chase this out. they were using justice department resources to. and t
at the department on december 15th with just 36 days left until the inauguration. he was specifically assigned to work under jeff clark. and booster klukowski also worked with john eastman, who, we showed you at our hearing last week, was one of the primary architects of president trump s scheme to overturn the election. the relationship between doctor eastman and mr. klukowski persisted after mr. klukowski joined the justice department. let s take a look at an email recommending that mr. klukowski and doctor eastman brief vice pence vice president pence and his staff. other recipients, including the chief of staff to congressman louis gohmert. the email says, as stated last week, i believe the vice president and his staff would benefit greatly from a briefing by john and can. as i also mentioned, we also want to make sure we don t overexposed can given his new position. this email suggest that mr.