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Other statutes that could be relevant tonight? >> well, so, in particular, i believe there was a forgery or a conspiracy or an attempt to commit forgery. if you are looking at the alleged fake electors, they started by something that was in fact not to, or at least what the d.a. is going to allege, which is donald trump was actually elected president, right? they were duly elected electors. and they will send that after the u.s. senate and other places. you know, that is one offense, you know, that i would use if i were the prosecutor for this case, as what we call an act which we look at rico...

Tacit agreement, that you all are going to commit a crime together. in georgia, you can do any of those things, particularly under the revolt statute. solicit someone to commit crimes for conspire with someone to commit crimes, and it can land you, unfortunately, before -- jury in folding county, if you -- >> so, one of the reports that was out last week was that he could also be charged with racketeering which, again, sounds a little bit like something the mob does. but i have this question about whether all of those charges listed in the reporting today could be under racketeering or was you...

The statutes, so you can conspire with someone to commit crimes, solicit someone to commit a crime, and it can land you unfortunately before a jury in fulton county beef if you do any of that. >> one of the reports that was out last week is that he can also be charged with racketeering, which again, sounds a bit like something the mob does. but i had this question about whether or those charges listed today could be under racketeering, or is there an expectation that it would be separate charges? >> of course, you know, most prosecutors will do well, right? so they will charge, essentially, a ...

Being withheld in exchange for the investigations so the argument would be, andrew, you still have nothing. >> well, i don't know that you have nothing. if you think about this in terms of a rico prosecution, you have to collect predicate acts to form the baes of a rico prosecution. so the request for assistance for the predicate act. he might not have as good of information about the withholding of the aid but that's okay because you have other witnesses that provide that testimony four. >> jim, the argument that will are real questions about the former vp and his son, the

Of it. now, there's another layer to vindman. yes, i know "the new york times" has reporting, andrew, that he had supposedly drafted a memo that sought to talk about the aid but he didn't put it in his opening statement and we were only told he would say sondland was holding a meeting, which would still qualify as a quid in this quid pro quo analysis. but he can't connect the aid to being withheld in exchange for the investigations so the argument would be, andrew, you still have nothing. >> well, i don't know that you have nothing. if you think about this in terms of a rico prosecution, you h...