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For a conspiracy involving the election. >> we know donald trump leaned on secretary of state brad raffensperger to find the correct number of votes, to flip it. we know the prosecutor has evidence tieing the trump legal team to a breach of the election machines in a republican county. we know that there was a slate of fake electors that was submitted and not accepted. we know rudy giuliani went down there and met with legislators to talk about these wild and outlandish and disapproved claims about the election and telling them they should, therefore, flip the election to donald trump. is that...

That could lead to some of them flipping because of the mandatory minimum sentence. it's a very big danger for donald trump. also allows proof of an overarching conspiracy with individual predicate acts, the underlying crimes that were part of the goal of overturning the election, of committing a coup. it can be very dramatic. it cannot be pardoned, except by a special committee within the state of georgia. even the governor does not have individual power to pardon such a crime. it has a lot of components that make it very dangerous to donald trump and his conspirators. >> that's exactly right...

So, the difference between georgia and the federal is, there doesn't have to be an enterprise. and, there also are many more crimes that the person can commit, and could be considered part of it. so just in a nacho, she has to prove that there was racketeering activity, and what does that mean under georgia? that means that the defendants, either committed, attempted to commit, or solicited someone to commit a crime, that is chargeable by indictment under georgia law. and, those crimes under georgia law include making false statements, perjury, forgery, bribery, violating the georgia computer ...

The federal level. do you think this case is a good fit into. >> it is absolutely a good fit. you have predicate acts, meaning what -- let me back up a minute. rico basically turns a number of different crimes into one crime. it takes a pattern and turns it into the one crime of racketeering. so what you have here are a number of false statements, false statements to brad raffensperger, and the secretary of state, by donald trump and statements that donald trump made to the speaker of the house in georgia. you have statements that donald trump made to the governor of georgia and statements mad...

As she talks about the predicate acts, heather approved, maybe this conspiracy, which i think we will see there as well, she's going to want to go into some detail. you might think about the requests at you like this. it is a little bit like the twine pulls and ties the package together. she can put it all in the wrapping paper, wrap it, instead, she lets her have a sort of a single gift if you will to give the jury. you know, there are some danger to having a detailed indictment. the feds are generally entitled to indictments that are near perfect as you go forward. there can be challenges, a...