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Look at the candidates that juan was pointing to, we are getting down to five out of what we thought was 25 that the president might be looking at. do the democrats have a point that people would see a more conservative view on abortion? the president says it will not be a litmus test. what you make on it? >> lisa: elections have consequences. there are reasons why democrats are up in arms. this is arguably the most important decision he will make in his entire presidency. you're thinking about kennedy, he was often the deciding vote. >> harris: he lost him unfortunately. >> abby: i actually i...

>> harris: i'm asking you if you can look at this and see the person as a human being who may go any sorts of ways? >> juan: but the way he is being selected, and i think that goes back to -- they have been prevetted to be predoctrinally conservative. >> harris: highly qualified as a nominee as you could possibly had, but rejected solely on the basis of wanting to play the construction game. and look the problem is democrats in the media, it was during the end of president obama's term. speak to the left and the media have engaged in such hyperbolic terms. the economy was supposed to crash und...

African-americans out of elite schools. >> juan: to me, that is not hyperbolic. that is reaction from people who see that the court is going from a court with kennedy in the middle, he was a real conservative by the way. i may finish. kennedy is a real conservative. but he was open-minded, especially on social issues. we were talking about gay rights and gay marriage. he said that he would reaffirm the importance of roe vs wade in the country. now, i think we are going to a position where the president promised to put a conservative in place, is approaching the possibility for an agenda. that ...

Mean to pick one side of the other, that is his language. he would put some people on the court in the list of potential appointees comes from the conservative. >> does that resentment apply to literally everything, because the democrats have tried to obstruct president trump on tax reform, or now nominee. this is all about politics. every election they bring this up and every election that i have worked in politics, and this is what they are trying to do heading into the midterm election. of course, they are trying to make this about abortion. they want this to be the central thing because th...