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It was a medium range ballistic missile. they did not realize immediately this was the first icbm, a two-stage missile which was capable if the trajectory were flattened out of reaching alaska at least. it went more than 1700 miles out into space. that is way farther than our orbiting space station. and it was really unexpected. they expected a missile test but they did not expect one that included an icbm. that was not foreseen. and it was on a mobile launcher. if you were considering a preemptive strike. there's a lot of talk we should take military action to take down a missile if we though...

The problem with north korea, of course, is we don't have that background. we don't have that practice. but deterrence in this case would consist of a couple of things. first what we always call a declaratory policy. that is making clear to them that use of any weapons here would be met with retaliation that would essentially wipe them out. basically they want these nuclear weapons so that they aren't wiped out, so that they don't experience regime change. that would be part of deterrence. the other part is what we call flexible deterrent options and the administration is doing a little bit of...

China, we gave you fair warning and if they continue to test another one of these things. >> kat: i'm going to defend something president trump said that you don't agree with. i completely agree with him not wanting to draw a redline because some of my kim jong-un could see it as a dare. he is a reckless leader and that forces us to have to act immediately even if we may not want to. that puts the ball in their court rather than our court. >> eboni: what is the alternative? i feel like at this point so much of our plan thus far when it comes north korea is basically betting on the fact that th...

The soviets actually did think that the united states might launch a preemptive strike, it was kind of one of these moments. my gosh. look upon them in a different light. >> an estimated 100 million americans watched last night as some of the horror of a nuclear bomb attack on the united states was portrayed in a tv movie. >> reagan processed a lot of history through movies, and the fact that this fear of nuclear annihilation was very real, he started feeling that maybe he was put on earth here to avoid nuclear war. >> just suppose with me for a moment that they could be in a waiting room with...

Something, let's talk about the big one, preemptive strike, would you support a preemptive strike of any sort? >> no. because that is a fraud with potential costs in human lives and really countless american lives in the soldiers that are there now. so any military action has to be an absolute last resort. but we are resorting to a military deterrent even as we speak. the missile defense force that is deployed in south korea or deploying there and perhaps in japan as well. the military exercises so-called in firing missiles as we have done in the south koreans. so we are beginning military det...