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the indictment, i believe you said 38. we are still counting, going through it. 37 or 38. i m going like this, sandra. you know. sandra: yeah. it s it s over three dozen and it s 40-something page document. john: the 38th count is false statements allegedly on the part of the president s valet and personal assistant. but 37 related to trump and notta together, and then that one separate one, number 38. but i mean, this thing reads like a book. sandra: hard to print. so, we are still going through it, and the top secret records seized by the fbi from the trump home as we learn more, andy, as we touched on earlier, they detailed on foreign nations nuclear capabilities. we obviously have prepared for and had some inkling so far. is this more or less than you expected, where are you on this, andy? it s much more than i expected, sandra, on the substance of the documents. ordinarily when you have a classified information case they have a defense tactic that s ....
Special counsel right at the top of the hour, generally they tend to be on time, so that should be starting in just a couple of moments. so, shannon, set it up what you x expect to hear then and what is tuesday going to look like down there in miami. we heard the way john said the former president is describing jack smith as a lunatic, the word john. john: deranged lunatic. he s going to want to present anything but that. i think this is going to be very dry, very methodical and procedural to say you ve got the indictment, this is what it has, we have laid out the details there. i would be highly surprised if he takes any questions. he will probably just explain what they have done and what comes next. so, yes, tuesday you have the hearing. jim trusty, i believe when he was part of the legal team, he is going to show up. you have to work through the procedural logistics, it s not every day a former president moves around. but you go to the pretrial phrase, all kind martha: wereg ....
You know, they ve got these conversations memorialized by the president s attorneys, and also this recording of him where he talks about this plan that s believed an attack plan against iran, i mean, they have a lot of information in this, jonathan. it is an extremely damning indictment. you know, there are indictments there are sometimes called narrative or speaking indictments. these are indictments that are really meant to make a point as to the depth of the evidence. there are some indictments that are just bare bones. this is not. the special counsel knew there would be a lot of people who were going to allege that the department of justice was acting bias or politically motivated way. this is clearly an indictment that was drafted to answer those questions. it s overwhelming in detail. and you know, the trump team should not fool itself. these are hits below the water ....
Sort of standard operating procedure hearing, even though the case is anything but standard. i think the court is going to want to convey this is being handled in as much the way as other cases as possible. there s going to be some differences. you are not going to have a president take secret service into a cell. you are going to have to make, as they did in new york, accommodations for his security. and in going forward you have this new team coming in that s not such a bad idea, by the way, because the nature of these charges really did contaminate, contaminate a lot of the preexisting trump team, so having someone sort of come in who has been unaffected by the allegations may have some benefit to that. but they have a heck of a job here because these are a lot of witnesses recounting a lot of statements from the president that are going to have to be knocked down and the president, ....
Worries. so politically this is in the past helped him, the new york indictment helped him and boosted him in fundraising and polls. this is another story. it probably will also feed his narrative washington does not want him back here the deep state to trying to keep him out but along with the political benefit there are serious legal risks and point by point very detailed allegations about how he and this alleged co-conspirator worked together to make sure there were false statements made through attorneys and legal members to the doj through the trump team. there is a lot of allegation of misleading, of moving boxes. not only that he had them, the possession of the documents but as we said, the follow-up, what comes behind that. not being truthful allegedly about the documents of potentially moving documents involving someone else in that, so that s how we get to this 37, 38 counts indictment, this could have stayed sealed until tuesday but clearly the justice department which wil ....