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This is a process that has a chance to lay the facts out before the public and make things clearer. there is no reason to wait for robert mueller. in the nixon prosecution they had a incidedependent investiga. >> it is quite a provocative cover. impeach, is that the largest letter you have been on "the atlantic" ever? we have to get the historians on that one. thank you very much, thank you for coming on, panel. coming up, the president now says the president is getting crushed on his side, is he ready to blink? side, is he ready to blink your house? -i know, it's not much, but it's home. righ...

Was never part of that. what do you make of that? >> there is a sense in which i'm pea -- impeachment can be used or deployed. there is an assumption that it can be deployed as a political political gesture, play believe that opening up the process is just a way for democrats to undermine the will of the voters. we know with clinton he came out of impeachment absolutely soaring. one of the things that i think is very important about that article is the claim that is being made that what needs to happen is the american people need to see it all, see donald trump being special.

Protected. republicans and democratics filed legislation to guarantee it's protection. the american public has been told that this is what we all have to wait for. i think now to proceed with a preimpeachment process soums like a mistake. and for those that are the president's opponents, i think it may benefit him. >> let me give you the last word here, can an argue be made that ultimately the sooner we get -- go through process, the better for everybody? is that an argument, and i'm curious, carlos, is that an argument that could be accepted by the president and some congressional republicans...

The atlantic, you are worried too many people are going to just react to the headline. >> we want to move readers beyond thinking about it as a outcome. the discovery for moving the debate out of the streets, for diffusing the political violence, and ultimately for adjudicating the claims against the president. >> so, eddie, you're the academic at the table. you try to widen the telescope here, what does history tell us about whether or not this is a good process or not. we had two trials in this country. we had, believe it or not, nixon

Large, with the exception of 33% that will always be with the president. they're fed up with this, they're tied of the chaos, and they will not excuse members of the congress that are sitting by. i saw jeb bush on a plane and he was a prophet, he predicted chaos. >> i hem thinking what are you talking about? thank you very much. we will let you go, up next, does rudy's latest revolution lead us closer to an event unlike any other in the modern age, actual impeachment proceedings. we're going to talk to someone about starting the process. just starting the process, later, the state of our union...