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Then as now, the doj decided, there today? >> well, thanks for having me and the prosecutor decided you couldn't indict a sitting today, brooke. president. 15 days ago vice president biden you had this material that's not going to be used for indictment stood in wilmington, delaware but material relative to a constitutional process. and he said if donald trump can the grand jury give it to refused to cooperate and obstructed the investigation the congress? judge sirica and an appeals that congress had, it's their court both agreed, yes. constitutional duty would be a because, in fact, there ar...

Saturday night after jeffrey epstein was arrested. he is arrested at 5:30. shortly thereafter they break into his mansion in manhattan and found photographs of nude underaged girls according to the u.s. attorney, he telling us that at the press conference a few moments ago. i think that's an important development so it depose further to something we've been talking about here on msnbc which is whether or not we have seen the last of charges involving jeffrey epstein and perhaps others. as far as court, craig, what we anticipate to happen first is an initial presentment to a magistrate judge th...

Acts for money. epstein was arrested this past saturday evening at teterboro airport aboard his private jet that had just landed from paris, france. epstein was taken to the metropolitan correction center and today he will be before magistrate judge pitman and later before district court judge berman. the united states attorney's office will take the position at that presentment and that conference that epstein should be detained pending trial. epstein is charged in a two-count indictment. first conspiracy to commit sex trafficking, and second the substantive crime of sex trafficking of undera...

We're expecting probably in the next 15, 20 minutes or so epstein will be in court for his first presentment. they will detail the charges begins him and then later this afternoon and the timing is very fluid, we don't know what time he will appear before judge berman, at this point they will have the bail hearing and prosecutors will advise the judge of this memorandum that they filed and at that point the judge will make a decision likely today whether or not epstein leaves court today on bail or whether he is held in detention. >> extraordinary case, tom, thank you so much for that. casey, ...

Receiving medical treatment, you know, this is the type of incident where you're going to have high-level scrutiny with the department of justice, with prosecutors. because the question is, at what point does this person be presented in front of a judge? that has to happen. usually, take out the fact that he was injured, it was just an arrest, officers would have that period of time before they had to turn him over where they can ask questions, try to get him to cooperate, talk to them. it's a lot different when he's been injured because the clock is ticking. will officers have that opportunit...