To debate the proper -- a human rights attorney, director of international operations, for the american center for law and justice. alan is the executive director of the church-state council. gentlemen, good morning to you. it is a hot deal in new york... >> good morning. bill: and throughout the country, people are taking sides. what should happen here. >> we have a situation here where the landmark preservation commission, one of the panels in new york city that has to review this, has not even been follow the right policies, that is why the -- they've delayed the vote again on the building ...