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But also poked holes in the parts of the testimony that they didn't like so much. >> and jeremy, right there to what julie said, talking about paul ryan, he's new to government. he's new to the presidency. heard that a couple of times today from a couple of people. is that any defense? >> no, because it's basically saying this guy who you thought was going to shake up washington, turns out he's not that good at this presidency thing. this presidency thing that's not what he is good at. unfortunately the president is also in commander in chief, in charge of 1.4 active duty service members, 800,...

>> and jeremy, right there to what julie said, talking about paul ryan, he's new to government. he's new to the presidency. heard that a couple of times today from a couple of people. is that any defense? >> no, because it's basically saying this guy who you thought was going to shake up washington, turns out he's not that good at this presidency thing. this presidency thing that's not what he is good at. unfortunately the president is also in commander in chief, in charge of 1 millionctive duty service members, 800,000 reserves and nuclear arsenal. he better get better at this presidency thi....

Richard lugar, whether he lived in indiana or virginia. he has been in the senate for 36 years. an anti-out of touch, you are a washington guy and indiana guy. does it have any touch of that? >> sure, absolutely. his entire argument was that ligar had lost touch. residency thing was case in point. that was powerful. murdoch called that a turning points. it would be hard to argue with it. >> greta: mr. murdoch will be running against a congressman, the democrat in november. how do those go against each other? >> there haven't been many polls but it will be closer than lugar versus donnelly woul...

Liked, the fact that he told the president that he was not personally under investigation, but also poked holes in the parts of the testimony that they didn't like so much. >> and jeremy, right there to what julie said, talking about paul ryan, he's new to government. he's new to the presidency. heard that a couple of times today from a couple of people. is that any defense? >> no, because it's basically saying this guy who you thought was going to shake up washington, turns out he's not that good at this presidency thing. this presidency thing that's not what he is good at. unfortunately the ...