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Way by district by state. he is playing down, sounded to me, like the importance of these first states for biden. that is a smart strategy? >> i mean the biden campaign has done that even on press calls with reporters. they certainly have played down the importance of iowa and new hampshire and part of that is the demographic makeup of the two early states. they are overwhelmingly white and look at where joe biden's support comes from part of why he remains resiliently popular because of the overwhelming support he gets from african-american voters. that's where senator warren has struggled. y...

Investigator and mediocre investigator or prosecutor, you know when to stop and say i'm going to go with what i have. doesn't mean they shouldn't investigate but they need to get the story out of what they already have. >> you know more about storytelling and narratives than just about anybody i know. as far as somebody who can tell the story of intense security, hope hicks may be better situated to do that. if you think the tantrum around don mcgahn being called and all the theatrics between the white house counsel's office, doj, all the efforts, i imagine he'll throw his body down before he'...

It came to russia, mike flynn would have been in on it. >> one would presume so. in fact, mike flynn was a guy who was essentially fired by the obama administration and started to talk around town that the reason he was fired is because he was talking too starkly about radical islam which wasn't true but he sort of became radicalized in the trump campaign and rose up the ranks and absolutely, he would a guy -- and by the way, barack obama warned donald trump on at least one occasion not to hire -- >> so did chris christie. >> absolutely. he was the guy that trump outsourced many of his foreign...

>> we're in trouble, what to do. there you see more of the classic playbook of the big corporation in washington trying to get trouble off its back. you had calls to senators, sheryl sandberg put in a call to amy klobuchar, sponsoring a strong bill on ad disclosure. what's going on here, heated conversation there. they were hiring lobbyists, obviously, which everyone does and they also hired a pr firm, this pr firm had done a lot of work, they'd done some media monitoring, they'd done press releases and press calls. but finally they were pressed into service to do campaign style research and t...

>> and they kept having to revise it over and over. >> no one saw it, it was $100,000 worth of ads and every one of those statements were untrue or massively misleading. >> we're in trouble, what to do. there you see more of the classic playbook of the big corporation in washington trying to get trouble off its back. you had calls to senators, sheryl sandberg put in a call to amy klobuchar, sponsoring a strong bill on ad disclosure. what's going on here, heated conversation there. they were hiring lobbyists, obviously, which everyone does and they also hired a pr firm, this pr firm had done a ...