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And it continues this consistent pattern, us against them, whether on racelines or whatever lines it may be that i think is disingenuous given who the president is. he's not really a guy who hangs out in michigan. aside from that, your view on this us against them kind of politics that he's really mainstreamed as president? >> well, he parlaid it into the white house. i want to point out for all of his complaints and this dinner last night, he did go and key note the foundation dinner in march. so he did not have -- did not go to the white house correspondent dinner and he went to the gridiron...

The hope that jared and ivanka would be a positive influence i think is waned. >> susan page, last question to you. were you at the gridiron saturday night? >> i was. >> i figured someone as important as you would be there. can you give us a sense of the president's performance and what it means for the future? do you think we'll see more of him at these washington establishment events? >> we may because the president attended the gridiron. the first time he's ever been there and he hasn't gone to the other big press dinners in town in the past year and he seemed to have a good time even thoug...

Specifically. as much as the president does hate the media, he joined the press at the gridiron dinner and made some remarks, the whole point to poke fun at himself and the media. here's a quote from the president last night, attorney general jeff sessions is here tonight. i offered him a ride over and he recused himself. [ laughter ] . but that's okay, that's okay. do you take it as a good sign that the president is now joking about this? we know how tense their relationship has been. >> yeah, i mean, what was unusual about last night and he even made a joke about this, is that trump doesn't ...

>> traditionally they have their offices in the east wing, so the idea the first lady would have an office not, you know, next to the oval, but in the same wing of the white house, that ruffled a lot of feathers. >> we were very up front about what her role was going to be as first lady. she's going to be an advisor to her husband. >> hillary clinton wanted to focus on policy, not parties. lisa caputo was the first lady's press secretary. no one was thinking about hosting press dinners, and the washington establishment. >> she got off on the wrong foot with the arbiters of dc's society, and ...

That. >> she's the only one to go to the podium to make fun of her husband. in 1972 pat nixon sat in for richard nixon. >> really? i'm going to thank the national journal for that one. >> let's take a listen to laura bush, because she was pretty funny. she was talking about the desperate housewives and all of that. >> ladies and gentlemen, i have been attending these dinners for years. and just quietly sitting there. well i've got a few things i want to say. george always says he's delighted to come to these press dinners. baloney. he's usually in bed by now. i'm not kidding. i said to him the...