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And, of course, john, the question still being will he comply with that subpoena? if he doesn't, he could be held in contempt of court and face either fines or even jail time. john? >> called to testify on friday, we have been told. jessica schneider, thanks so much. joining me now, cnn legal analyst, former new york homicide prosecutor paul callan and cnn contributor and author garrick raft. i want to cut through the smoke and the drama. i think we have learned many concrete things here that are very important. and, paul, let me start with you, the fact that the special counsel has issued a s...

As time has gone on and more stuff come out and gotten to the bottom of it and realizes a lot of it is b.s. he has increased his confidence and now i think that he is -- i think he is in a very good spot with the whole of it in terms of feeling confident there isn't any sort of bombshell. >> sandra: someone who doesn't think it's a good idea is judge andrew napolitano coming up next hour. he says no way should trump sit down face-to-face with robert mueller. he says that's -- this is what we call a perjury trap. >> that's what i was trying to say a few minutes ago. look, donald trump cannot go...

>> laura: clarence thomas had one of the most distinguished legal careers in american history. only the second african-american to serve on the supreme court and he likes to stay out of the spotlight. rarely speaks to the media. luckily, he made an exception for him. maybe because i clerked for the supreme court for him just a few years ago. we spoke about his judicial philosophy and his confirmation hearing and his friendship and respect for the late great anthony scalia. only 25 years since i worked for you. i am dating myself and that's fine. i thought about what i wanted to ask you. you lo...

>> laura: clarence thomas had one of the most distinguished legal careers in american history. only the second african-american to serve on the supreme court and he likes to stay out of the spotlight. rarely speaks to the media. luckily, he made an exception for him. maybe because i clerked for the supreme court for him just a few years ago. we spoke about his judicial philosophy and his confirmation hearing and his friendship and respect for the late great anthony scalia. only 25 years since i worked for you. i am dating myself and that's fine. i thought about what i wanted to ask you. you lo...

That. as we've been talking about, that could be an opening salvo. >> it might be. but i want to see a -- >> why would democrats or anybody come forward and say there's nothing else there? >> i can tell you right now that's not going to happen. >> at the time when mueller comes out and says, you know what, there was no collusion, that in fact the senate and house committees who haven't been able to find something, they are right, there's nothing out there. >> you're kind of dreaming if you think that's going to happen on monday. >> remember this. the ranking member of the democrat investigatio...