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Very important in this entire effort that you can see from the administration is this effort to remain united all along the way, and by doing that, it sends this message to the russian government that there is no daylight. we are in it to win it. we are not messing around. and that's going to be very important when you're talking about, as rick mentioned, helping frame the negotiations between ukraine and russia to bring an end to this and also to communicate not to even go near a chemical weapons attack. >> rick, let's talk a little bit more about the economic pressure piece, the isolation pi...

A lot of people are going to be sitting home saying, that's not my guy, i can't get fired up about that. that's the challenge the democrats have. >> do you throw your support behind it, joe biden is more moderate? a pressure piece like an elizabeth warren. we talked a lot about the pressure of the race. one of the points you all were making is it's a random drawing, folks. it's an all white -- >> all white night. >> it is. every single one. if this issue am coulds up, how can these candidates address this very serious issue of race without coming off as pandering. >> this is going to sound lik...

I picked up a piece of emerging conventional wisdom that suggested the new doctrine in terms of what the president has done with iran, with north korea, pulling out of tpp, whatever you want to put under that rubric is, in fact, making people do things they wouldn't want to do. >> congratulations on "the soul of america." fabulous. >> thank you. >> you bet. what i think is happening the pressure piece has had some effect. president moon of south korea, when they hand out the nobel prize, if they ever do for this, he's at the top of my list.