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Obviously, there is a greater risk that something will happen, even inadvertently, that can spark a conflict. what is putin's out? what face-saving measure can he have to pull those troops back here? he has made it clear how he feels about ukraine, where it should stand, and he's drawn a line about ukraine's involvement with nato. if the west isn't willing to give the assurance, what happens? >> face-saving measures are part of the formula to get out of the situation, but it is probably not what is going to be decisive. it'll be a pressure track. it'll be the fact that the u.s. and our allies ...

Was pressure on iran. and i even think that he wanted to bring about regime change in iran through the use of military force. president trump has a different view. and time and time again he undermines the more comprehensive pressure track that john billion ton was supporting by saying the only issue here is about nuclear weapons. and if he was willing to give the iranians money to get an iran nuclear deal, that is back to square one, that is actually just exactly what they were criticizing the obama administration from doing in the first place. >> what about the problem who is trying to reall...

Containment. we have through the hard work we have undertaken with the international community imposed toughest set of sanctions, international and bilateral on any country. we know it's having an effect. we have a great deal of evidence about the economic impact that the sanctions are having on the iranian economy and therefore on the political and clerical leadership. now, part of what we have to continue to do is keep them isolated. keep all the countries, including russia and china on board as we have been up to now. so, we have said from the very beginning, we're open to diplomacy. we are...

We have, through the hard work we've undertaken with the international community, imposed the toughest set of sanctions, international and bilateral on any country. we know it's having an effect. we have a great deal of evidence about the economic impact that the sang shctions on the irania economy and the political and clerical leadership. we have to keep them isolated, keep all the countries, including russia and china, on board. so we've said from the beginning we're open to diplomacy. we're doing so in the so-called p 5 plus 1 format. but this is an unacceptable path, that they must stop o...

To keep the pressure on them in the pressure track and making it clear there is not going to be any alternative but to deny them a nuclear weapons program. >> greta: i'm not suggesting military action against them. i am looking this from afar but i see a country, yes, we have sanctions but we do give waivers to some countries. some countries get to do business with them. they do get some relief. they are behind problems with syria, problems with hezbollah, with hamas. they are destabilize go to israel. we may be on different time track than their nuclear weapons problem. so, there is going to ...