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The #BacktheBlue types like to say stuff like "If you don't want to get arrested, don't break the law." But breaking...

Purpose. >> yes. >> he left. he left there and the officers decided to stop him with a pretextual stop. so it had nothing to do -- they were hoping to find drugs. they were hoping to find weapons. they were hoping to find something illegal to charge him with. but -- but in this particular case, that did not happen. we cannot change -- the police department cannot change the narrative of what happened on this particular stop. >> well, certainly, was obviously -- it was obviously incredibly hard to watch. and i know humiliating and painful for you so, clifford, thank you for telling your story. ...

They should have had a more objective view of what happened and should have stuck to that. you're talking about professional law enforcement individuals. that's their obligation and commitment they made to the citizens and state and in this particular case, the university. >> when you see this body cam footage that we have seen, and we have seen the other two different perspectives. let's talk about the one that was on the officer who shot the unarmed man. how did this routine traffic stop turn into this tragedy? >> well it seems -- it seems obvious or seems apparent that really the stop was a...